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this is quite interesting and insightful! steven, would you like to mention anything about the stamps??!!
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Well it's an "empty book of stamps". From what I can remember there are only two instances - comparatively - when stamps were used: to send the letters, parcel, etc. back to himself; and to send the Greek postcard. Eric also says on pg.29, "a postage stamp of control", about his house and how he was slowly acclimating to the world. The postcard doesn't have a date on it; according to the newspaper article Randle received it "earlier this week", but this talk of stamps makes me wonder when was it sent? Or if Randle was lying about when she received it? (Side-note: I've also only just realized that the Casablanca image is the front of the postcard) Steven also raises the question about Eric's "blue phase" - blue writing on the ceiling (not in the final novel), the blue envelope, "flapping blue tarpaulin sheets" - which makes him sound like Picasso, with his Blue and Rose Periods. With the all the mentions of TV shows and movies my first thought was about the bluescreen, and then I thought about the Microsoft (Mycroft) Blue Screen of Death and the Source Code on the Orpheus, and finally about the clear blue sea. Blue is also a common color in pens. It could be a latent memory of Clio's blue dress or of the blue lettering of the title of Clio's guidebook (according to Amazon.com there are 56 mentions of the color blue), Eric unconsciously retreating to something he felt was safe and familiar. Steven also raises the question: "How is Eric talking about events in the past tense given what we've seen at the end of the story?"
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More blue, found in the Ludovician's body on pg.373 (UK hardback), the quote about looking up at the ceiling at the painted blue words; thanks to Cp and his " Progressive Documentation of Everything" for copying the following text out: "Just over an hour ago I found myself lying face up on a bed looking at badly painted blue words on a ceiling. The blue words said: I didn’t know who I way. “So, what can y_______ Now, one hour later, I’m sitting in a doctor’s surgery and the doctor is trying not to frown or sigh or rub her _________ of negative body language out at all. Instead, she’s sitting up straight and still and she’s got both hands- red, ruddy, outdoorsy- firmly clamped on either end of a silver parker pen. The doctor, who’s name is Dr. R_______ avy, strong set of features and cop______. She’s a large, bovine physical presenc______ cloud of dooming intelligence hanging around her. She s________ holds my eyes out for a second, maybe a second and a b____ evern try to shrug it, before she spe. “Shoot.” aks. “I’m afraid I’ve got some bad news for you, she says. I start nodding the slow nod which I’m hoping will make me look together and “Ok" Interesting that a quote that was supposed to be at the beginning of the novel ending up as part of the Ludovician at the end of the novel.
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How did you find this? It's hosted on the raw shark site (which is now auto-directing to the forum), but I don't remember there being a way to access it on the old site.
I thought the part where Mycroft and Clio's cancer are mentioned in the same breath. It's never really explicitly stated what kind of cancer she had, but from her rubbing the back of her neck at various points I always just assumed it was brain cancer, lymphoma, or something of that sort. Sort really brought my attention, for the first time, to this kind of connection between Clio and Scout (Clio's cancer vs. Scout's inactive Mycroft Ward data, or whatever you want to call it).
So yeah, it's pretty neat. When was this put together, Steven? It gave off the impression of being more recent than not, but there's no date that I can see.
Oh, and just a small note about the above: there was a small typo near the beginning of that quoted text there ("was" not "way"), but I've corrected it.
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CpVb006 wrote:How did you find this? i was just "digging around for clues" online and stumbled upon it. yeah it's weird that it is hosted on the old raw shark site, yet no-one had come across it before. CpVb006 wrote:I thought the part where Mycroft and Clio's cancer are mentioned in the same breath. It's never really explicitly stated what kind of cancer she had, but from her rubbing the back of her neck at various points I always just assumed it was brain cancer, lymphoma, or something of that sort. Sort really brought my attention, for the first time, to this kind of connection between Clio and Scout (Clio's cancer vs. Scout's inactive Mycroft Ward data, or whatever you want to call it).
funny you wrote that because it triggered a vague memory of reading something similar before.... a-ha!! i believe you hit the nail on the head!!! following up on that, i do think there are further clues that have been left on the web and in the book itself (not including negatives from other foreign editions) that have yet to be found...
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CpVb006 wrote:Sort really brought my attention, for the first time, to this kind of connection between Clio and Scout (Clio's cancer vs. Scout's inactive Mycroft Ward data, or whatever you want to call it). As santonio noted in " Fearful Symmetry" the intention seems to be that every aspect of this novel have a positive and a negative: "Like the Rorschach inkblots, many of the characters and situations present dual aspects that may be interpreted as two distinct but reflective elements (alternately “the view” and “the reflection” mirrored and organized along a central axis or concept), or alternately (and from a different paradigm), may be interpreted as a single whole."
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