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I'm intrigued...
"In his dream, which he later forgot, he found himself alone in a room, firing a pistol into a bare white wall."
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!!!!!
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Quite possibly one of the most beautiful and heartbreaking things I've read in quite a while. Bravo.
Really, though, aside from some fleeting thoughts of Only Revolutions, I've got nothing. Not even how one picture relates to the others. Maybe each is a letter? Somehow?
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http://educ.queensu.ca/~fmc/may2004/diagram.html Check out the quarter circle ciper. (copy and paste the whole thing, the link didn't really seem to work)
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MiaVRO wrote:http://educ.queensu.ca/~fmc/may2004/diagram.html
Check out the quarter circle ciper.
(copy and paste the whole thing, the link didn't really seem to work) An interesting idea, but i think there are two many variables for it to be a simple substitution cipher. 8 wedges per circle, three different colors, wedges on top of wedges, then there are the numbers, 360, 180, 45, also in two colors, then the two solid circles... I got nothin'.
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I wondered wether each section denoted a letter ie: 8 black sections = the first 8 letters of the alphabet a whole black = the 9th (i), and so on, the numbers = degrees which could be another way of putting a letter ie: 360 in black = h, but there isn't a letter to denote the whole white, so that kind of throws that????
See in black and white, feel in slow motion....
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I got it!
No, wait... nevermind.
Sorry.
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@Ellimmist: I think I've seen your name in another great authors forum ;)
@Topic: I think this resembles Marks Only Revolutions very much, with a capital O.. but instead of just revolutions, it has eights of revolutions as well...
Funny also how it says "hula hoop"... a circle.. hmmmm... I'll think a little bit about it all for a while..
Edit:
I found some kind of interesting thing. This Cipher might not be a cipher at all...
In supreme alphabet:
(O)—Cipher: completion; a circle consisting of 360 degrees; any person, place, or thing.
In supreme mathematics:
0. Cipher (the number zero)
It is also an English word for the number 0. (derived from arabic)
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timlarsson wrote:@Ellimmist: I think I've seen your name in another great authors forum ;) Indeed. You've seen me. Have I seen you?
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Ellimist wrote:Indeed. You've seen me. Have I seen you? Well, I don't think so, I've mostly been lurking around reading everything. (seeing how everyone who writes something gets scolded for not searching ;) ) But if you have it'd be under the same name as this one, I think.
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Ok. I'm considering, that if this is a series of words (which, i think we can all assume it is...), i'm thinking about the series of letters they may represent to make up legit towrds. We see that the second character (5/8 of the dark pie) is two beside eachother in the same word (i'm thinking it could be an "ee" possibly), is then repeated again as the second-last character in the very last series. But, the numbers too need to be looked at. Why is it, that the first number (360) is beside another number (45), but no other numbers are touching...? The third series is only made up of one character repeated (are there any words that are two of the same letter?) Maybe, yes, the numbers do alter the way a character is deciphered... Or, there could be another layer... (Knowing Steven, there are probably many layers!!) Also, the thread name is "O"... is that only because of the fact that it's a circle cipher, or could "O" be part of the Book II title? (yes, this post = me ranting... Anyone else wanna?)
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Mia, I also tried that approach... and I thought: Black pieces = 3 letters.
so 2 pieces = 6 letters: a b c d e f.
follow that pattern, and you'll get:
FOOL*****I*******
****I*****FO*
(and then I thought with the grey pieces: 1 letter.)
FOOL**A*AI* etc.
and with some imagination, I got that part to be FOOLED AGAIN...
that's how far I got
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:d I just realised that before Hula Hoop, The title for this forum is
xxx xxxxxx xxxxx
And I read somewhere that the first world was going to be The. So I think timlarsson could be on the right tracks.
Edit: When I think of Fooled Again, I think of The Who. Perhaps it could be something in a song title or music orientated.
Steven Hall wrote earlier - "People rarely ask me about music though, which is strange because there’s a lot of music in the book and a lot of music went into writing it. There are even a few musical puzzles - spotting a song title and a few seconds searching for song lyrics will give a reader a nice little Raw Shark Easter egg of one sort or another"
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letting black segments equal 4 yields 8 20 20 16
http
I tried playing with that, assuming the domain would end in biz (final character is 24+x) and trying pull an address from that, but none of the addressed I sorted out pulled up anything interesting (variants on fdBsBLPGG.biz). Am stalled at anything beyond pure black.
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Would that, then, make
360= . (in black make it doubles ie. : )
45= / (black doubled again ie. //)
and 180 either _ or -
If that's the case, could grey then be half of black, making it equal two?
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ok this is what i've been working on
(btw 0sb0, the http was a major discovery. Awesome work)
360 = . (full circle)
45 = / (45 degree angle)
180 = _ or - (straight line)
Black piece = 4
grey piece = 2
white on black = 5
Edit: White = one added to the colour below it.
I'm not sure what white on grey would be. Although, i'm thinking the circles represent actual numbers. Maybe five and four.
Edit: White on grey = 3
8 20 20 16 : // 2 9 2 12 5 . * * / * 26
5 * 9 5 12 / ** * . 8 20 13
http://bible.**/*z
e*iel/***.htm
I feel like i'm getting this all wrong.... bible?
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Oh man i got it http://bible.cc/ezekiel/5-4.htmOr not.... the numbers might be off... They could be anything
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Awesome work!! Great stuff! Could the full circles be 40 (8 pieces times 5 for white on black) and 32 (8 pieces times 4 for solid black)? That would give http://bible.cc/ezekiel/40-32.htm
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The numbers could be anything. It's difficult because now we can't know if it's wrong. It's all so cryptic!
But i like how you made the full circle equal it's total.
Do any of the passages have to do with apocalypse.. by any chance? :P
Edit: Or a superhero, or little red riding hood, or a forest...?
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