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heartbreak
Posted: Thursday, August 6, 2009 5:44:56 AM
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The numbers could be just anything, but it wouldn't make sense to encipher something in that way. Whoever you were sending the cipher to would have no way to decipher the numbers unless they had knowledge before hand of what the numbers should be. The numbers should decipher in the same way as everything else.
heartbreak
Posted: Thursday, August 6, 2009 6:18:50 AM
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Also, unless the cipher is wrong, the first number is limited to 1-48 (number of chapters in Ezekiel) and the second number is limited to 1-63 (the highest number of verses in one chapter).

If we wanted to assume that the first number has to be a multiple of 5 (white on black) then it would further limit the first number to 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40 and 45 and the second number to 1-49 (the highest number of verses from the multiples of five). Making the same assumption for the second number, that it should be a multiple of 4 (solid black) then the second number is limited to 4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 24, 28, 32, 36, 40, 44, and 48.

Edited to fix some numbers I left out.
MiaVRO
Posted: Thursday, August 6, 2009 6:23:12 AM

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If we check all of those, how will we possibly know which one relates more than the other? The solving of the cipher keeps us as much in the dark as we were before, unfortunately.
heartbreak
Posted: Thursday, August 6, 2009 6:38:31 AM
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heartbreak wrote:
If we wanted to assume that the first number has to be a multiple of 5 (white on black) then it would further limit the first number to 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40 and 45 and the second number to 1-49 (the highest number of verses from the multiples of five). Making the same assumption for the second number, that it should be a multiple of 4 (solid black) then the second number is limited to 4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 24, 28, 32, 36, 40, 44, and 48.


Which would lead to these possibilities:

Chapter 5 Verses 4, 8, 12, 16
Chapter 10 Verses 4, 8, 12, 16, 20
Chapter 15 Verses 4, 8
Chapter 20 Verses 4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 24, 28, 32, 36, 40, 44, 48
Chapter 25 Verses 4, 8, 12, 16
Chapter 30 Verses 4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 24
Chapter 35 Verses 4, 8, 12
Chapter 40 Verses 4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 24, 28, 32, 36, 40, 44, 48
Chapter 45 Verses 4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 24

which would be:

1x5 and 1x4 or 2x4 or 3x4 or 4x4
2x5 and 1x4 or 2x4 or 3x4 or 4x4 or 4x5
3x5 and 1x4 or 2x4
4x5 and 1x4 or 2x4 or 3x4 or 4x4 or 5x4 or 6x4 or 7x4 or 8x4 or 9x4 or 10x4 or 11x4 or 12x4
5x5 and 1x4 or 2x4 or 3x4 or 4x4
6x5 and 1x4 or 2x4 or 3x4 or 4x4 or 5x4 or 6x4
7x5 and 1x4 or 2x4 or 3x4
8x5 and 1x4 or 2x4 or 3x4 or 4x4 or 5x4 or 6x4 or 7x4 or 8x4 or 9x4 or 10x4 or 11x4 or 12x4
9x5 and 1x4 or 2x4 or 3x4 or 4x4 or 5x4 or 6x4

The question isn't which verse has the most relevant text since we have no clue what text would be relevant, the question is which is most relevant to what we know of the cipher? Since both numbers are represented by full circles they should be equal in some way.

for example:

1x5 and 1x4
2x5 and 2x4
4x5 and 4x4
6x5 and 6x4
8x5 and 8x4

From these, which could be seen to represent full circles? My thoughts would be 1 as in one whole circle or 8 for the eight pie slices making up a whole circle. Leaving us with:

1x5 and 1x4
8x5 and 8x4

Chapter 5 verse 4 or Chapter 40 verse 32

(If anyone has other ideas or theories why other verses should be considered or see flaws in my reasoning, I would be grateful to hear them. Always looking to improve on things that I screw up. :D )

Chimerical
Posted: Thursday, August 6, 2009 8:10:32 AM
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:O That's amazing how you managed to get the URL.

As for the post above me, i've read over it a few times and I think I've scratching my brain because I've scratched my scalp so much.
heartbreak
Posted: Thursday, August 6, 2009 8:49:10 AM
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Chimerical wrote:
:O That's amazing how you managed to get the URL.

As for the post above me, i've read over it a few times and I think I've scratching my brain because I've scratched my scalp so much.


The post above just shows how one can eliminate many of the possible answers based on what we know of the cipher text.

If you have specific questions I'd be glad to answer them as they would be helpful in letting me know where to start explaining.

Edit: Or if you want me to just explain the process in a bit more detail, I might be able to do that.
MiaVRO
Posted: Thursday, August 6, 2009 3:23:45 PM

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Do you think the passage is supposed to lead to something else, or is the "answer" on it's own?
heartbreak
Posted: Thursday, August 6, 2009 3:26:55 PM
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MiaVRO wrote:
Do you think the passage is supposed to lead to something else, or is the "answer" on it's own?


I haven't given it much thought yet.
Chimerical
Posted: Friday, August 7, 2009 1:27:37 PM
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The thing is, how do you know what to look for when you don't know what you're looking for.
slugpowder
Posted: Monday, June 14, 2010 7:50:47 PM
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What happened to megalodon? I found this about Ezekiel's wife http://higherfaith.org/pastorswives/ezekielswife.htm. ...that she died which might be something.... Although the passage that I thought this code referred to was about the cutting of hair to burn Israel but I guess I will just have to keep thinking or rethinking
timlarsson
Posted: Friday, April 22, 2011 9:13:57 PM

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Just thought a little bit about this... read ezekiel 40:32, and thought about O and Hula Hoop...
The verse talks about a gateway, which measures a size just like the others... O might be some gateway, or maybe some portal?
An alien gateway the same size as the other gateways, new gateways popping up here and there?
Steven Hall
Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 3:37:27 PM

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timlarsson
Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:03:45 PM

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Hmmm,
All I get from that picture is: Hebreos, Latinos, and DVM ( = 1505)
heartbreak
Posted: Thursday, June 23, 2011 12:36:38 AM
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I think its meant to be read, "SEOVNDVM HEBREOS : MVNDVM LATINOS" Capital V's are often u's so it might be "Seoundum Hebreos : Mundum Latinos" I can find instances of both (meaning individual words, not the whole inscription) in texts, but haven't managed to locate a translation yet.

Actually, just tried the second using Google Translate and it gives "Seoundum the Hebrews: the world Latins." Close.
Steven Hall
Posted: Thursday, June 23, 2011 8:36:52 AM

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Stef_Kennedy
Posted: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:35:28 PM

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Seoundum Hebreos : Mundum Latinos - if you change the first "o" to a "c" it becomes "according to the hebrews: The world publications"
Stef_Kennedy
Posted: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:37:42 PM

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Also - the picture is of Ezekiel and the wheel (which is speculated to be UFO/extraterrestrials)...maybe the book is about aliens?
Merridew22
Posted: Friday, June 24, 2011 12:24:04 AM
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Not to mention that the creature, with four faces (lion, eagle, man, and ox) is pretty alien. But probably the focus is on the wheel thing. Ezekiel explains in his vision that the "spirit of the creature was within the wheels", seems like spacecraft to me! Here's the link to the page I read... Maybe some deep religious themes in the new book?
<http://www.biblewheel.com/wheel/ezekiel_wheels.asp>
Lynimerx
Posted: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:26:27 PM
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Check out the Photobucket album where both of these pictures are taken from:
http://s141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/despot66/
timlarsson
Posted: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:18:39 AM

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Lynimerx, I think we all have looked in there ;)
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